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AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND
RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS
FOR 1985

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION

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AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND
RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS
FOR 1985

HEARINGS

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE

COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

JAMIE L. WHITTEN, Mississippi, Chairman

EDWARD P. BOLAND, Massachusetts
WILLIAM H. NATCHER, Kentucky

NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York
CLARENCE D. LONG, Maryland
SIDNEY R. YATES, Illinois
DAVID R. OBEY, Wisconsin
EDWARD R. ROYBAL, California
LOUIS STOKES, Ohio
TOM BEVILL, Alabama

BILL CHAPPELL, JR., Florida

BILL ALEXANDER, Arkansas

JOHN P. MURTHA, Pennsylvania
BOB TRAXLER, Michigan

JOSEPH D. EARLY, Massachusetts
CHARLES WILSON, Texas

LINDY (MRS. HALE) BOGGS, Louisiana
NORMAN D. DICKS, Washington
MATTHEW F. McHUGH, New York
WILLIAM LEHMAN, Florida
JACK HIGHTOWER, Texas

MARTIN OLAV SABO, Minnesota
JULIAN C. DIXON, California

VIC FAZIO, California

W. G. (BILL) HEFNER, North Carolina

LES AUCOIN, Oregon

DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii

WES WATKINS, Oklahoma

WILLIAM H. GRAY III, Pennsylvania

BERNARD J. DWYER, New Jersey

WILLIAM R. RATCHFORD, Connecticut

BILL BONER, Tennessee

STENY H. HOYER, Maryland

BOB CARR, Michigan

ROBERT J. MRAZEK, New York

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts
JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania
JACK EDWARDS, Alabama
JOHN T. MYERS, Indiana

J. KENNETH ROBINSON, Virginia
CLARENCE E. MILLER, Ohio
LAWRENCE COUGHLIN, Pennsylvania
C. W. BILL YOUNG, Florida
JACK F. KEMP, New York
RALPH REGULA, Ohio
GEORGE M. O'BRIEN, Illinois
VIRGINIA SMITH, Nebraska
ELDON RUDD, Arizona

CARL D. PURSELL, Michigan
MICKEY EDWARDS, Oklahoma
BOB LIVINGSTON, Louisiana
BILL GREEN, New York
TOM LOEFFLER, Texas
JERRY LEWIS, California
JOHN EDWARD PORTER, Illinois
HAROLD ROGERS, Kentucky

KEITH F. MAInland, Clerk and Staff Director

AGRICULTURE, RURAL DEVELOPMENT AND RELATED AGENCIES APPROPRIATIONS FOR 1985

MONDAY, MARCH 19, 1984.

RURAL ELECTRIFICATION ADMINISTRATION

WITNESSES

FRANK W. NAYLOR, UNDER SECRETARY FOR SMALL COMMUNITY AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT

HAROLD V. HUNTER, ADMINISTRATOR, RURAL ELECTRIFICATION ADMINISTRATION

JACK VAN MARK, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR

JOSEPH S. ZOLLER, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR-ELECTRIC
JOHN H. ARNESEN, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR-TELEPHONE

BLAINE D. STOCKTON, JR., ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR-MANAGEMENT
THOMAS M. SCANLON, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF BUDGET

MICHAEL W. KELLY, ASSISTANT GENERAL COUNSEL, ELECTRIC AND TELEPHONE DIVISION, OFFICE OF THE GENERAL COUNSEL

STEPHEN B. DEWHURST, BUDGET OFFICER, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

OPENING REMARKS

Mr. WHITTEN. The Committee will come to order.

We have with us today Mr. Naylor, the Under Secretary; Mr. Harold Hunter; and your associates. We are glad to have you here. We will be glad to have you proceed in your own way.

Mr. NAYLOR. Mr. Chairman, thank you very much for the opportunity to appear before you today.

We are here to present the Rural Electrification Administration budget proposals for fiscal year 1985. We believe them to be realistic in light of current budgetary considerations and program needs. I have asked Mr. Hunter to prepare and present the position of the agency for your Committee's consideration.

STATEMENT OF THE ADMINISTRATOR

Mr. WHITTEN. Mr. Hunter, we will be glad to hear from you. Mr. HUNTER. Mr. Chairman, we do appreciate being here. As far as the members of the staff that are here at the witness table, they are the same as we have had previously so they have been on the record.

As Mr. Naylor has said, this presentation follows very closely our own recommendations plus the program that the Administration supports, and, as such, it touches upon economic recovery.

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