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SMALL BUSINESS SUBCONTRACTING PROGRAM

(Part 4)

Unito Jones,

HEARING

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON SBA AND SBIC AUTHORITY, MINORITY ENTERPRISE AND GENERAL

SMALL BUSINESS PROBLEMS

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

WASHINGTON, DC, JUNE 21, 1984

Printed for the use of the Committee on Small Business

U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

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COMMITTEE ON SMALL BUSINESS

PARREN J. MITCHELL, Maryland, Chairman NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York

SILVIO O. CONTE, Massachusetts HENRY B. GONZALEZ, Texas

WILLIAM S. BROOMFIELD, Michigan JOHN J. LAFALCE, New York

LYLE WILLIAMS, Ohio BERKLEY BEDELL, Iowa

JOHN HILER, Indiana HENRY J. NOWAK, New York

VIN WEBER, Minnesota THOMAS A. LUKEN, Ohio

HAL DAUB, Nebraska ANDY IRELAND, Florida

CHRISTOPHER H. SMITH, New Jersey IKE SKELTON, Missouri

DAVID DREIER, California CHARLES W. STENHOLM, Texas

GUY V. MOLINARI, New York ROMANO L. MAZZOLI, Kentucky

TOBY ROTH, Wisconsin NICHOLAS MAVROULES, Massachusetts GENE CHAPPIE, California CHARLES HATCHER, Georgia

SHERWOOD L. BOEHLERT, New York RON WYDEN, Oregon

MICHAEL BILIRAKIS, Florida
DENNIS E. ECKART, Ohio

DAN SCHAEFER, Colorado
GUS SAVAGE, Illinois
BUDDY ROEMER, Louisiana
NORMAN SISISKY, Virginia
ESTEBAN EDWARD TORRES, California
TOM J. VANDERGRIFF, Texas
JIM COOPER, Tennessee
JAMES R. "JIM" OLIN, Virginia
C. ROBIN BRITT, North Carolina
RICHARD RAY, Georgia
CHARLES A. HAYES, Illinois

MAJOR L. CLARK III, Staff Director
THOMAS G. POWERS, General Counsel

SARAH ETHEREDGE, Staff Assistant
Lois LIBERTY, Publications Specialist
CHRISTINE A. RUSSELL, Minority Counsel

SUBCOMMITTEE ON SBA AND SBIC AUTHORITY, MINORITY ENTERPRISE AND GENERAL

SMALL BUSINESS PROBLEMS

PARREN J. MITCHELL, Maryland, Chairman NEAL SMITH, Iowa

JOSEPH M. McDADE, Pennsylvania JOSEPH P. ADDABBO, New York

HAL DAUB, Nebraska JOHN J. LAFALCE, New York

GUY V. MOLINARI, New York
RON WYDEN, Oregon

SHERWOOD L. BOEHLERT, New York
DENNIS E. ECKART, Ohio
GUS SAVAGE, Illinois
THOMAS A. LUKEN, Ohio

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CONTENTS

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Hearing held on June 21, 1984..
Opening statements of:

Addabbo, Hon. Joseph P., a Representative in Congress from the State of

New York.

Mitchell, Hon. Parren J., chairman, Subcommittee on SBA and SBIC

Authority, Minority Enterprise and General Small Business Problems ...

Testimony of:

Gray, Everett C., corporate director of material, General Dynamics Corp...

Kelly, William R., Director of Center Support, Lyndon B. Johnson Space

Center, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, accompanied

by James Neal, Director of Procurement, and Robert L. Duppstadt,

Small and Small Disadvantaged Business Specialist, NASA....

Petersen, Robert C., corporate director, subcontract and procurement

management, Rockwell International Corp....

Rice, James E., Deputy Director, Center Support Operations, John F.

Kennedy Space Center, National Aeronautics and Space Administration,

accompanied by Norman Perry, Industry Assistance Officer, and William

M. Baulig, Procurement Officer, Kennedy Space Center, NASA

Ryan, Robert L., small and small disadvantaged business program admin-

istrator, Boeing Co., accompanied by Caryll Seymour, corporate liaison

officer.

Trimble, Robert F., vice president of contracts, Martin Marietta Aero-

space, accompanied by Harry Nesteruk, director of contracts, and Her-

bert Watkins, manager, business utilization and support services,

Denver Aerospace..

Additional material supplied for the hearing record:

Gray, Everett C., corporate director of material, General Dynamics Corp.:

Prepared statement with attachments .....

Kelly, William R., Director of Center Support, Lyndon B. Johnson Space
Center, National Aeronautics and Space Administration:
Responses to questions of Chairman Mitchell

Tables showing various approved subcontracting plans,

Petersen, Robert C., corporate director, subcontract and procurement

management, Rockwell International Corp.: Prepared statement

Rice, James E., Deputy Director, Center pport Operations, John F.

Kennedy Space Center, National Aeronautics and Space Administra-

tion:

Charts

Prepared statement.....

Ryan, Robert L., small and small disadvantaged business program admin-

istrator, Boeing Co.: Prepared statement with attachments.....

Trimble, Robert F., vice president of contracts, Martin Marietta Aero-

space: Prepared statement with attachments...

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