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"the Prince being 15 and the Princefs fomething more, and that they bedded together for near five Months, it feemed very ftrange, that the Queen "fhould call God to witnefs, as fhe did, That, when ἐσ fhe came to King Henry's Bed, he was an unspotted "Virgin."
The Dutchefs of Norfolk, who was prefent at the Marriage, declared, "The Age of Prince Arthur, at
the Time of his faid Marriage, to be about 15, and "that fhe faw Prince Arthur and the Lady Catherine "alone in Bed together, the next Night after their. σε Marriage."
George, Earl of Shrewsbury, depofed, "The Mar"riage was celebrated at St. Paul's, decimo Septimo "Henrici 7mi, 1501; that Prince Arthur was born "at Winchester, 2do Henrici 7mi; and that he believed the Prince knew his Lady carnally, because "he might be able fo to do, as himself had been, who knew his Wife before he was fixteen."
Sir William Thomas depofed, "That Prince Arthur " and the Lady Catherine lived five Months, partly
about London and partly at Ludlow, in a Houfe કુંડ together as Man and Wife, and that he heard Sir "William Woodall, who was at the Prince's Christening!
Ye fpeak like honest Men pray God ye prove fo.
Alas! I am a Woman, friendless and hopefs!
Wolf. Madam, you wrong the King's Love with thofe Fears, Your Hopes and Friends are infinite.
Queen. In England
But little for my Profit: Can you think, Lords,
"fay, That he was above 15 at the Time of his Mar"riage, and the Lady Catherine older."
Thomas, Marquis of Dorfet, depofed, “He saw a Register of the Nativity of the King's Children, by which he found Prince Arthur was born the 20th "of September, 1486, and at the Time of his Marriage, which was upon a Sunday, decimo feptimo "Henrici 7mi, he was of a good and genuine Complexion, and able, as he believed, for the Purpose "of Generation."
Robert, Viscount Fitz-Walters, depofed,." The "Prince was then about 15 and Queen Catherine older; and that he very well remembered, that the next Day after the Prince and Princefs of Wales had been "in Bed together, he saw them folemnly bleffed, and "waited at Breakfast on Prince Arthur, when Maurice "St. John did carve, and he, the Lord Fitz-Walters, gave Drink; at which Time Maurice St. John de"manding of the Prince what he had done that Night to make him so dry? the Prince answered, I have "been in Spain this Night."
Charles, Duke of Suffolk, depofed, "That he was "in the Bishop of London's Palace the Morrow next following the Day of Marriage, and waited there 66 upon the Prince at Breakfaft," who, having in Effect
That any Englishman dare give me Counfel?
Or be a known Friend 'gainst his Highness's Pleasure,
Cam. I would your Grace
Would leave your Griefs, and take my Counsel.
Queen. How, Sir?
Cam. Put your main Caufe into the King's Protection,
He's loving and moft gracious. 'Twill be much
Better both for your Honcur, and your Cause:
For, if the Trial of the Law o'er-take ye,
Effect confirmed Maurice St. John's Deposition, added, "That the Shrove-tide following the Mar"riage, which was in November preceding, the "faid Prince began to decay, and grow feeble "in Body, which increased, as St. John believed, by reafon the Prince lay with the Lady Ca"therine."
Thomas, Duke of Norfolk, Lord Treasurer of England, depofed, "That he, being on the Day of Marriage in the Bishop of London's Palace, and the "Morrow after at the Prince's Breakfast, heard the "Prince's Answer to Maurice St. John, when he "faid, He had been that Night in the midst of Spain; by which Words, becaufe Prince Arthur was of Age, and good Complexion and Nature, and "above 15, he believes he carnally knew his La<< dy; because himself at the fame Age did know ❝and carnally use a Woman; and that he believes "this the rather, because he heard, from credible Persons, that the faid Prince Arthur did lay with "the faid Lady Catherine five or fix Nights after." Sir Anthony Willoughby, Knt. depofed, "That, "being the Morrow after the Marriage in the Prince's Privy-chamber, the faid Prince fpoke before divers Hh 2 " Wit
Wolf. He tells you rightly.
Queen. Ye tell me, what ye with for both, my Ruin :
Is this your Chriftian Counfel? Out upon ye!
Heav'n is above all yet! There fits a Judge
That no King can corrupt.
Cam. Your Grace mistakes us.
Queen. The more Shame for ye; holy Men I thought ye,
I have more Charity. But fay, I warn'd ye;
"Witneffes thefe Words, Willoughby, give me a Cup ແ of Ale, for I have been this Night in the midst of "Spain: After which he faid, It is good Paftime "to have a Wife; which Words he repeated divers "other Times; and he heard fay, they lay at Lud"low together the Shrove-tide next following."
From thefe Depofitions and other Circumftances, the Couniel on the King's Part ftrenuoufly urged the Invalidity of the faid Marriage from the beginning, by reafon of the carnal Copulation committed between Prince Arthur, the King's Brother, and the prefent Queen: But it was again as vehemently denied by the Queen's Counfel.
The King's Counsel further offered the following Depofitions in Support of the Conteft, which were read.
William Warham, Archbishop of Canterbury, depofed, “That he never liked the Marriage; and that he told Henry the VIIth as much."
Sir Anthony Poynes, as to the Age only.
Thomas Lord Darcy, William Lord Montjoy, and Henry Guilford, Knights of the Garter, faid little to any Purpose, but what they had heard by Fame. David Owen, as to the Age only.
Wolf Madam, this is a meer Distraction, You turn the Good we offer into Envy.
Queen. You turn me into Nothing. Woe upon ye!
If ye be any Thing, but Churchmen's Habits)
His Love too, long ago. I'm old, my Lords,
To me above this Wretchednefs? All your Studies
Cam. Your Fears are worfe
Queen. Have I liv'd thus long (let me fpeak myself, Since Virtue finds no Friends) a Wife, a true one,
Nicholas, Bishop of Ely, depofed, "That he could fay nothing of the Carnalis copula; but that he very "much doubted it, in regard the Queen often (fub "Teftimonio Confcientia fua) faid to this Deponent, "That fhe was never carnally known by Prince Arthur.'
After the reading thefe Depofitions the Bishop of Rochester, one of the Queen's Counsel, ftood up, and fpoke in this Manner, " And all this is no દ more, than what hath formerly been depofed, exa"mined, thoroughly debated, and fcanned by the
beft and moft learned Divines and Lawyers that "could be got, which Time I do well remember
and I am not ignorant of the Manner of their "Proceedings, when and where all the Allegations, "in refpect of what was then produced to the contrary, was adjudged vain and frivolous, whereupon "the Marriage was concluded, which was afterwards "approved and ratified by the See Apoftolick; and "that in fuch ample Manner, as I think it a very hard "Matter now again to call the fame in queftion be"fore other Judges."
Then stood up Dr. Ridley, another of the Queen's Counsel, a little Man, but of great Spirit, and profound Learning, and faid, "My Lords, the Carઠંડ dinals, we have heard how the Queen herself here 66 in
A Woman (I dare fay without Vain-glory),
Have I, with all my full Affections
Still met the King; lov'd him next Heaven, obey'd him,
Almoft forgot my Prayers to content him;
And am I thus rewarded? 'Tis not well, 'Lords.
One that never dreamt a Joy beyond his Pleasure ;
Yet will I add an Honour, a great Patience.
Wolf. Madam, you wander from the Good we aim at.
To give up willingly that noble Title,