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Mr. CURRAN. Yes, sir.

Mr. CEDERBERG. GSA would take it over and allocate it to somebody else?

Dr. MUMFORD. I was going to say that GSA will take into consideration the needs of other agencies at the time that we relinquish it.

Mr. CEDERBERG. You cannot get by until 1975 without additional rented space?

Dr. MUMFORD. I don't think we can, sir.

Mr. CEDERBERG. Have you looked around to see whether we have any space in the basement or elsewhere in the present two library buildings! I don't like to see you enter into new leases when you know you are going into a new building unless you really need to.

Dr. MUMFORD. We have utilized every nook and cranny in the present two buildings on Capitol Hill. We are utilizing space intended for exhibit purposes for workspace now, and we are located in nine locations off Capitol Hill with staff and collections in some cases, so that we are really bursting at the seams.

Mr. CEDERBERG. Maybe you could put some of these functions off for 18 months or so until you get ready to go into the new building and we wouldn't miss them?

Dr. MUMFORD. As an example, sir, the Congressional Research Service is requesting additional staff and if it is to implement the Legislative Reorganization Act there must be space for the people it is requesting. Mr. Jayson will elaborate upon that.

Mr. CEDERBERG. That is all I have. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. CASEY. Mr. Evans?
Mr. Evans. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.


Dr. Mumford, I was wondering while you were talking whether the completion of the new library building is scheduled for fiscal year 1975 or calendar year 1975.

Dr. MUMFORD. Calendar year, late 1975.
Mr. Evans. Are you on schedule now!

Dr. MUMFORD. Mr. Poole, who is our coordinator of buildings operations, can elaborate upon that later, but roughly so. There is some slippage due to strike and floods—not a tremendous lot.

Mr. CROXTON. If I may, the official schedule has not been changed. It still reads the last month or two of 1975. This is the Architect of the Capitol's schedule. There have been some delays, but so far they do not appear to be the kind that are certain to cause delay in actual beneficial occupancy. When the Architect of the Capitol is before you, you will want to ask some more definitive questions.


Mr. Evans. Does that building provide any parking space!
Mr. CROXTON. Yes, sir; it does.
Mr. Evans. How many cars?
Mr. Croxton. I would like to supply that for the record.

Dr. MUMFORD. I still think it is 300, in the neighborhood of 340, if I recall correctly.

(The information follows:) There is space for 325 cars.

Mr. Evans. As a consequence of building this building, will there be more parking space available to the people that work for the Library or less

Dr. MUMFORD. It would be about double what we have now for the present two buildings.


Mr. Evans. Did you say that you have people for the Reference Service located in 10 different rental buildings?

Dr. MUMFORD. It is not all Reference Service. For instance, we have newspapers located in a building on Duke Street in Alexandria, and the Geography and Map Division is over at Pickett Street in Alexandria. There we have collections of maps and atlases and staff. The Division for the Blind and Physically Handicapped is located at 13th and Taylor Streets, and that includes staff and collections. The Card Division is down at the Old Naval Weapons Plant, and so on.


Mr. Evans. Has anything happened either legislatively or administratively in your functions in the last few years to make it necessary to redesign the plans of the building going up?

Dr. MUMFORD. Not essentially. We have made some minor modifications.

Mr. Evans. No major modifications!
Dr. MUMFORD. No, sir.
Mr. Evans. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Casey. Mr. Cederberg?
Mr. CEDERBERG. Thank you.


Dr. Mumford, regarding these 138 new positions that you want to make permanent, these positions were given to you on a temporary basis, is that correct?

Dr. MUMFORD. We have designated them as indefinite. Mr. CEDERBERG. How many more do you have in that category? Dr. MUMFORD. Very few. I don't have a figure readily in mind. Mr. CEDERBERG. Supply that for the record. Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir. (The information follows:) Two GS-5 computer programer positions in the Information Systems Office are funded as indefinite positions in addition to the 138 positions mentioned above. Any other indefinite positions established in the Library are paid from reimbursements or working funds transferred from other Federal agencies. From time to time a few positions may be filled on a temporary basis from current year operating surpluses.

Mr. CEDERBERG. Basically these are all of the temporary, indefinite positions that you anticipate making permanent?

Dr. MUMFORD. That is right.
Mr. CEDERBERG. You do have some others in that category?

Mr. CURRAN. We may from time to time, as I indicated earlier, hire people for a particular job on an indefinite basis. But in terms of these two program areas, automation and preservation, these are all the positions that we are asking for conversion.

Mr. CEDERBERG. We don't have to anticipate your coming to us in the future requesting as large a number as this to be made permanent !

Dr. MUMFORD. No, sir. When we undertake to do work for another governmental agency we may have to recruit additional employees and we do it on an indefinite basis. We would not be coming to this committee to ask they be made permanent.


Mr. CEDERBERG. I notice your estimates of gifts are dropping. Why is that?

Mr. CURRAN. In this activity?

Mr. CEDERBERG. $2,056,000 in 1972 and $2.4 million estimated for 1973 and dropping to $1.8 million for 1974.

Mr. CURRAN. Gifts tend to fluctuate.
Mr. CEDERBERG. How do you estimate them?

Mr. CURRAN. Based on experience. It is frankly a guesstimate more than an estimate, in that it is an experience factor. We don't ordinarily receive very large gifts. They tend to be anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, and then we have a few special programs where the bulk of the money is given. They will vary from year to year.

Mr. CEDERBERG. This is a rather substantial reduction from 1973. I wondered if there was some unusual reason for that and if you had some unusual gifts in 1973 that you might not anticipate in 1974. I don't want to press it, but the 1974 estimate does reflect a substantial reduction.

Mr. CURRAN. Offhand I am not sure of all of the pieces and parts that add up to the total. I can analyze it for I can analyze it for you, if you like,

you like, in more detail for the record.

(The information follows:)

In both 1972 and 1973, the Library in response to a bid received $593,500 from J. W. Edwards Publishers, Inc., of Ann Arbor, Mich., for the Library's editing and preparation costs for publication of the National Union Catalog, 1968–72. The Library classifies these receipts as gifts. This is a cooperative program in which the Library allows a publisher to publish a book catalog of its National Union Catalog after the Library's staff prepares the copy for publication using funds given to it by the publisher. No similar publication is planned in 1974.


Mr. CEDERBERG. One other thing. Can we anticipate any supplemental other than pay supplementals this year?

Mr. CURRAN. In fiscal 1973?

Mr. CURRAN. No, sir.

Just pay



the appropriated funds ?

Mr. CURRAN. The only conceivable one Ostage supplemental, but our most recent mail sample indicated that ur postage bill was running according to the estimate. I do not anticiate anything other than the pay supplemental.

Mr. CEDERBERG. That is all I have.
Mr. GIAIMO. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. CASEY. Mr. Giaimo?

In general, do you operate on totally appropriated funds, $83 million? You have $9 million income?

Mr. CURRAN. Yes, slr ; but these funds are returned to the Treasury.
Mr. GIAIMO. There are other funds that go into the Library besides
The largest and principal amount is in funds appropriated by the Con-

Mr. CÚRRAN. The Library has basically
gress directly to the Library. The second category is working-fund
Mr. CURRAN. Funds are transferred under the provisions of the

Act. In that table on A-2 indicated in your appendix in the

will see that the working fund, which is the last item, is in the order of $2.8 million, for 1973. Then fund, and service-fee accounts for the Library. It is $4.925,735 for 1973. The Architect of the Capitol support is not in the Library appropriation at all. It is appropriated to the Architect of the Capitol for work he does in maintaining the Library buildings. Finally there are reimbursable services performed. That is a miscellaneous category. As you can see, the bulk of the moneys that we obligate and spend a re direct appropriations, working funds transferred to the Library from other Federal agencies under the Economy Act, and finally gift, trust,

other than pay would be a FUNDS AVAILABLE TO LIBRARY

three sources of funds. million ?

Mr. GIA IMO. Substantial ?




Mr. GIAIMO. You operate the total Library operation on about $92
Mr. CURRAN. That is what we estimate for 1974, yes, sir.
Mr. CURRAN. It goes into miscellaneous receipts. It is not a revolving

Mr: GIAIMO. This does not take into account any capital improvements and the new library at all ?

ents CURRAN. No, sir. In this particular budget for fisca] 1974. there is no money going into the Madison Building, except for $2.225.000 for Shelving. If you look at the 1972 column, you will see $71,090,000 was for the Madison Building.

Mr. GIAIMO. In addition to that you receive in fees about $9 million which goes back into the general treasury?

Mr. CURRAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. GLAIMO. That does not enter into your budget?

and service-fee fund activities.

fund account.


Dr. MUMFORD. The gift and trust funds are practically all specifically earmarked for specific purposes, not for general operating expenses.

Mr. GIAIMO. You do include them?
Dr. MUMFORD. Yes, sir.
Mr. GIAIMO. They are specifically earmarked ?
Mr. CURRAN. Yes, sir.
Mr. GIAIMO. As to how you use them?
Mr. CURRAN. The donor specifies the use.
Mr. GIAIMO. What are they usually earmarked for?

Dr. MUMFORD. Some small ones are for acquisitions. One large fund is for musical concerts. Two, actually. The Coolidge Fund and the Whittall Fund, and one for literary programs, and so on.

Mr. GIAIMO. Your increase over last year is approximately $5 million; is that correct?

Mr. CURRAN. Yes, sir; that is the net increase.


Mr. GIAIMO. Of that, how much is mandatory in the sense of pay adjustments, increases, and so forth?

Mr. CURRAN. We estimate to maintain the present level of staff and services in 1974, an increase of $1,754,000.

Mr. GIAIMO. That is for mandatory increases, pay increases ?
Mr. CURRAN. No. Pay increases are separate.

Mr. GIAIMO. Let me rephrase the question. Go back to the green sheets. You have an increase in the first item of $3,800,000.

Mr. CURRAN. Yes, sir. Mr. Giaimo. How much of that is mandatory and how much is for additional staff ?

Mr. CURRAN. We are estimating $884,000 of that is mandatory.
Mr. GIAIMO. The rest is for new staff?
Mr. CURRAN. The rest then is for new staff and nonpersonal services.
Mr. GIAIMO. Pay increases ?
Mr. GIAIMO. Grade increases?

Mr. CURRAN. Annualization for in-grades and reallocations. That is included in here.

Mr. GIAIMO. Not in the $884,000, however?

Mr. CURRAN. The principal portion of the $884,000 increase is for ingrades and reallocation increases of $592,000. Table III might show that more clearly.

Mr. Giaimo. Table III does not show anything too clearly to me. The type size is so small.

Mr. Casey. You are going to get into the breakdown later.

Mr. GIAIMO. I know that, but I am trying to get an overall picture of this.


You have a $5 million increase and you have $3,827,000 shown as an increase in salaries and expenses. What is the $3,800,000 ?

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